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Join Date: May 2007
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Well, there are some good ideas here, but also some potentially imbalancing ones (even in PvE!)
The one that I would really like to see something done with is Preservation... I suppose it would be overpowered if it healed lowest to highest, but I really would like to use this more when I go rit healer, but it just isnt effective at all as it stands... It actually happened once when I was testing using this that I saw the comment: "someone is energy happy!" Even if it only targeted wounded people... but healing teammates at full health is the breaker for this particular spell. Too bad.... |
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May 23, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Communistwealth of Virginia
Guild: Uninstalled
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Preservation definitely needs a buff, I'll agree there. There are only 2 elite spirits for rits, and I've never been a fan of Wanderlust, since it self-destructs. I like the ^^ proposed change of healing a random ally every 2 seconds. Clamor of Souls also needs some kind of buff. Either armor-ignoring damage as you suggested, or considerably lower recharge. I'd dare say 7 seconds. Considering that it forces your Rit into the frontline to be even remotely useful, it should do more. The few times I've used it, I've found it to be unworthy even if it were non-elite.
Backbreaker and Earth Shaker are fine as is, but that's already been said. For Cleave, I'd suggest making it 5 adrenaline and adding a random condition (like Drunken/Desperation) if it hits. It needs more utility. Elite attacks that do nothing besides extra damage pretty much suck and see very little PVP use. Make Decapitate drain your adrenaline and energy if it hits. The risk is not worth it with the insane amount of block skills being used these days. That's putting way too much into hoping one skill will land. All "disabled if blocked" attack Elites are pure garbage and need to be reworked. Except for Oath Shot, which was intended to be a gamble anyway. Last edited by kvndoom; May 23, 2007 at 07:53 AM // 07:53.. |
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May 23, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
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no, ty, looking at ur proposed changes to Necromancer skills, together with some quite questionable warrior, monk, mesmer changes, I cant get the feeling that u want to run whats considered "gimmick"s all day long
theres a reason skills are not that powerful, its supposed to teach you when to use what. backbreaker like that would be quite... OMFG like i dont see why you want every elite to have a really really nice use in pvp, most of them can be used, its up to u to place them in the right places (imo) PS. that lingering curse... owa |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Guild: Team Asshat [Hat]
Profession: Mo/E
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imo: elite res should be worth the elite slot and be a basic res. Remove the upkeep mechanic. Remove the "no dp" mechanic. 5 Energy, Recharge 10s, casting 3s. 100% health, 100% energy. Holy crap, it would suddenly be marginally better than death pact signet. On Archer's Signet: Long recharges are butts. But so are goofy mechanics. I think Archer's Signet should not have a duration and should not have a recharge. 3s casting time, but affect 1 bow attack. Yay, free conc shots for all. If you spend 3s between shots casting archer's signet Last edited by Spazzer; May 23, 2007 at 08:38 AM // 08:38.. |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration
Guild: Yale University [Snow]
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May 23, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Finland
Guild: League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)
Profession: Me/
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I love how angry people became with these. Most of these skills do deserve a buff, be it PvE or PvP. With ANet, over-buffing compared to over-nerfing isn't really an issue, so hopefully they catch a skill or two from here to buff.
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May 23, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Schindlers Fist [ouch]
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i really really like these skill changes, well done. hopefully some of these will be considered by ANet.
these skill changes will make alliance battles a lot more fun, although in my opinion AB's are already the most fun and best form of competitive PvP in guild wars. thanks, mire~ Last edited by .defekt; May 23, 2007 at 09:28 AM // 09:28.. |
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May 23, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Etereal Guard
Profession: Me/Mo
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Unyielding Aura is fine...it earned me two gladiator points before...
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May 23, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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No, every other factor in that match except you earned you those two points.
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May 23, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]
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Zinger u have the right idea, alot of these Elites need to be tweaked aswell as a few others (although the same can be said for several normal skills too) unfortunately uve taken it to the extreme and have overpowered several of them and made all the current high powered ones seem weak in comparison.
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May 23, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq
Guild: Idiot Savants [iQ]
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I was going to just.... not post anymore on this, since I basically summed the whole thing up with my first post, but I've decided it might actually be amusing enough to be worth my time to go through and explain exactly why all of the changes you listed (yes, all of them) are ridiculous.
Cleave: I'll ignore the fact that a skill called "Cleave" has absolutely no reason to be dealing any damage to anthing but it's target, and instead focus on the fact that you've decided that Cleave has no recharge. Granted, you've admitted that you haven't played Warrior, but I would hope that perhaps you have some idea how adrenaline works. To use an adrenaline skill, you must "charge" it up, and after you use it you must charge it again. You have to recharge it. Recharge. Decapitate: Obviously you don't know, so I'll share a little secret with you.... many elite skills released post-Prophecies were an attempt to offer an alternative to a skill that was nerfed. Unfortunately, in ANet's very distinct style, all of the skills are made of fail. Eviscerate was nerfed, so the geniuses at ANet decided that a MEGA-DAMAGE-OMFG Axe skill might make up for it, thus, Decapitate. Of course, it had to be retardedly gimped, and the way they did it destroys it's playability, whether it gets blocked or not. One of the things that's good about Warriors is that their DPS increases over time because of how adrenaline works, as opposed to most classes, where DPS decreases over time because they're reliant on Energy.... which goes away. Anything that makes your adrenaline go away is not good, i.e. Burst of Agression on a Warrior is also not the best idea ever. Whirling Axe: I find it interesting that you're under the impression that Whirling Axe stops Warriors from using other attack skills. It's two adrenaline, not one, meaning that there is, in fact, a strike in between Whirlings to use a skill that doesn't suck, you know, like.... anything else. The odds of getting blocked (in pve or pvp) are why this skill blows, and making it more likely to critical doesn't make it less likely to suck. Backbreaker: As basically everyone who has posted has said, your changes don't make this skill good. The skill is already good, and very much playable and played. Your changes make this skill retardedly good, to the point that all the other Warrior elites in the game (even with your changes!) become shit. A four second knockdown is already amazing, it doesn't need to also be impossible to avoid and instant also. Earthshaker: Probably because your Backbreaker changes were so amazingly horrible, very few people have really had time to notice how devastating this change to Earthshaker would be. It's already also playable and played, it doesn't need to be an 8 adrenaline version of Earthquake with no exhaustion. Enraged Smash: So basically you'd like this skill to be a 4 adrenaline skill with the text "Kill target foe." Sweet idea. Magehunter's Smash: Actually, making this skill so that it can't be blocked makes it at least as good as Shock... except elite and 5 Adrenline. How about instead I run Backbreaker and Shock on the same bar.... OMFG that's liek, 2 elites? Amirite? Battle Rage: Even with your changes, Frenzy is better... primarily because then I can run either an elite attack skill or an elite support skill and not be embarrassingly bad at Guild Wars. Trolls don't use it because it's awesome. Defy Pain: Or you can play a W/E and tank better with primarily Earth skills on your bar, since Earth Magic has better damage reduction than anything Warriors use for tanking in pve. Primal Rage: Honestly, the best way they could fix this skill is to remove it from the game. An attack speed boost on a Warrior that doesn't allow you to build adrenaline and blacks out any adrenaline you had is the kind of thing that should have never existed in the first place. Show me any bar with this even with your change and I would prefer to change the skill for Frenzy and go with no elite than run Primal Rage. Rage of the Ntouka: This skill isn't bad because of how many adrenal skills it ruins, it's bad because it's a shitty way to gain adrenaline when instead you could run an IAS and gain more adrenaline and increase your DPS at the same time. Zomg. With your change, "To The Limit!" is still better. Warrior's Endurance: Um. The problem with this skill is that it's a stance, and it doesn't prevent damage or deal more of it and the energy gain is shit. Adding Healing Breeze to it does not make it good. Quivering Blade: No, that wouldn't parallel Crippling Slash, that would pass it like a Ferrari passing a corpse. How about we don't give Warriors a skill that's the same as having Broad Head Arrow and Sever Artery in one slot? Soldier's Stance: No, that's still not as good as Frenzy, because using Soldier's Stance means you just blew your elite. You'd be better off with Frenzy and a different elite skill. [[Whew, you sure did a lot of Warrior "balances" for someone who doesn't play Warrior.]] Archer's Signet: Actually, that would still be a waste of time. This is one of those skills that is elite only because as a non-elite, it would be devastatingly powerful with other elites. This was also the case with Hundred Blades, which was too powerful with Illusionary Weaponry to be non-elite. Of course, then people learned that that was a shitty combo and so they reintroduced Hundred Blades in Factions and called it Sun and Moon Slash. But I digress... the real reason this elite will never be good is because Ranger's energy management is based on Expertise. The more you put in Expertise, the better the skill is but the less you need it... changing the duration doesn't make it worth using over Broad Head Arrow, Burning Arrow, Crip Shot, Barrage, Spike Trap, Smoke Trap, or Rampage As One... or anything. Expert's Dexterity: Actually, Ranger's are made of energy. This is what's known as "Expertise". It's the second most imba Primary Attribute, after only Soul Reaping, which is still wtfpwn even after it's "nerf". At 50% this skill would be overpowered... but guess what? It still wouldn't be as amazing as Broad Head Arrow, Burning Arrow, Crip Shot, Barrage, Spike Trap, Smoke Trap, or Rampage As One... or anything. Trapper's Focus: First of all, saying that "Trappers Focus is moreso a PvP skill" is incredibly and 100% incorrect. I would wager that I have never once in my entire existence seen someone running Trapper's Focus in PvP. They probably would with your buff though, especially if the 50% from this stacked with Trapper's Speed. 1/2 second Traps, awesome! Then conditions would be almost as overpowered as hexes... but still not quite. Incidiary Arrows: Or instead you could not suck, and run Crippling Shot. Without a duration change, this skill is just going to blow. Forever. Choking Gas is better... hey, how about we just make Choking Gas elite, and make Incidiary Arrows normal? That might actually be balancing. Again, I digress... Scavenger's Focus: Hey yeah, portable Order of the Vampire! Then you can run it with Order of Pain, and dual orders RSpike will work again! That's so0o0o0o0o balanced! Aura of Faith: Or could run Divine Boon, then all your heals will grant the Aura of Faith bonus except you can still actually have a good elite on your bar. ZOMG two elites? Amirite? Peace and Harmony: +2 energy regen is actually still shitty. Blood Ritual is better, and it's +energy regen isn't even a variable, nor is the skill elite.... and that's before you even take into account using an enchantment as your energy crutch. Sure hope there's no enchantment removal wherever you're going! ...................... Unyielding Aura: Let me quote you: "An instant rez would have near endless utility!" Glyph of Sacrifice. Resurrection Chant. Look them up. Combine them. Save your elite skill for one that doesn't reek of fail. Oh, and a little of the copypasta as a side dish: Sure hope there's no enchantment removal wherever you're going! ...................... Withdraw Hexes: Um, no. A party hex removal is something that the game needs with the current ammount of hexes vs. reasonable hex removal capability, but a recharge like that is.... horrible. Light of Deliverance is better... there's no reason to have an elite that removes hexes once every 2-3 minutes when you can instead have an elite that alleviates alot of the pressure all the time. Amity: This is another one of those skills that shouldn't exist. Pacifism is moderately cool and possibly usable, but this is a total joke, no matter what the recharge, and whether you're in pve or pvp. If you're in pve.... just kill everything. If you're in pvp.... blind? Snare? Hex defense? Blocking? Delete from the game tbh. Life Sheath: Sure, make it 1/4 second cast.... except then it's still dick compared to almost all of the other Monk elites that are reasonably playable. Instead, you can run Reversal of Fortune, which is better than Life Sheath, and then still have an actually good elite to go with it. Zomg two elites? Amirite? Cultist's Fervor: Oh sweet, then you could Blood Spike faster than old school Ranger Spike! Awesome man, let's denerf Soul Reaping when it's still the best Primary Attribute in the game! Life Transfer: First, take Life Transfer off of your skill bar. Then, put Life Siphon on your skill bar. Then, put Spoil Victor on your skill bar. Then, you're good at Guild Wars. Amirite? Ravenous Gaze: This skill just... isn't going to be playable whether you make that change or not. Even with your change, explain to me how this skill is better than.... BiP, Spoil Victor, Well of Power, Offering of Blood, Order of the Vampire or Soul Leech? It's not. It would still never get played. Well of Power: You don't see the problem? Well that's nice, that means there must not be one, amirite? Feast of Corruption: First of all, Soul Reaping is not fixed. Second of all, with the retarded ammount of hexes available and playable right now, and the complete lack of effective removal (Purge Signet HARRRR), rebuffing this skill right now would be the worst mistake since releasing Factions. Lingering Curse: Yes, it's two seconds because if it were fast enough to spike with it would be too good... or actually it would be called "Gaze of Contempt" and it wouldn't be elite, and it would cost 10 energy. Pain of Disenchantment: Explain to me how this skill's condition is anywhere near comparable to Spoil Victor's. This skill deals damage when enchantments are removed, Spoil Victor deals damage to anyone doing anything to anything with less health. That said, making this skill more powerful would make it too good, since it would fit well into any hex build, and then a Rend Enchantments (or any other enchant removal at all really...) has the capability of dealing hundreds of damage on top of a shit ton of hex pressure. Let's not do that. Plague Signet: Actually this skill is already good enough on a secondary without making it a ranged and free version of infinite Plague Touch. That is, it's usable when a Warrior is trying to figure a way to beat a Crip Shot one on one... beyond that, it's not going to get used ever for anything no matter what it's related attribute or recharge are. Soul Bind: Unpredictible effects like becoming impossibly overpowered when combined with a massive stack of other hexes that are already overpowered on their own? I can predict it. It's not unpredictible. Contagion: No, Tainted Flesh prevents you from becoming diseased, this just makes conditions go back on what put them on... assuming they're nearby. Which is shitty. Just like Tainted Flesh. See, Tainted Flesh was only really good in Prophecies because there wasn't anything better to run. This is Chapter 3. Get in the game. Discord: Um, unfortunately, being able to click it more just makes it Flare, it doesn't make it good. The conditional nature of the damage makes it worthless enough on it's own, not the [oshi~] 2 second recharge. Jagged Bones: I would make fun of you for not knowing why this skill got nerfed, but what's really magical about that whole situation is I get the feeling ANet didn't even understand why the skill was broken. If this skill was broken like it was when it was halls playable in the first place, it would still pwn face with Soul Reaping as it is now... instead of actually fixing the broken bit, of course, they just destroy'd the recharge and made the whole thing lame. Virulence: I'm so, so sorry that the portion of this skill that keeps it balanced annoys you. Really, it devastates me to know that you're annoyed by this skill being not overpowered. Have you considered that... maybe... possibly... you could.... use this skill in a team build that has conditions that come from somewhere besides your bar? Oh man, that would require teamwork... that's kind of a big concept for someone like you who seems to be so0o0o0o into the pvp uses for things. Energy Surge: You removed it, but I have to say it. That was the stupidest idea ever in the history of skill balance ideas. If Izzy had've been reading this list, he, in his infinite wisdom, may have taken some of your ideas to heart, but even he would've lol'd at the E-Surge change you had. Extend Conditions: Even at 5 seconds, this skill is absolutely horrible and not worth having on any skill bar ever. Ever. Not once. Never. Condition removal is so common and simple that if you're relying on a shitty elite hex to keep your conditions on, and you can't just reapply them, you've failed before you've started. Deletion from the game would make this skill worth thinking about, if at least in a "remeber that one really shitty skill they removed?" sort of way. Tease: Yeah dude, touch range Mesmer skills ALL SUCK, automatically. Especially that Blackout, that skill is the worst of the worst! .............. This skill is bad because of it's ending condition, not it's range. Gust: First, take Gust off your bar. Then, put Gale on your bar. Then, put any other Elite on your bar you want in the whole game, on any class. Then, you're good at Guild Wars. Amirite? Ride the Lightning: Your changes make the skill funnier, but not good. Just in Air Magic I would rather have Blinding Surge, Mind Shock, Invoke Lightning, or hell, even Thunderclap. Yeah, I went there. Ether Prism: The way you shifted the variables on this skill shows me that one day, you too could be a skill balancer at a high end company like ANet. See, when Izzy does it, that's what he does; he just changes the variable so they sound good, without any concept of how it actually changes the skill's capabilities. Ether Renewal: They should have just removed this skill from the game after the nerf they layed on it's ass after Smiting proved to be overpowered with it. Your change makes it even better when run on a E/D or E/Mo gimmick Earth Tanker thingy, but overall it's still shitty. Mirror of Ice: Except.... Vengeful Weapon steals life for the person who it's on, it doesn't just negate damage. Just in Water Magic alone, even with your change I would rather have Water Trident, Icy Shackles, Ward Against Harm, Shatterstone or even Mind Freeze. Seeping Wound: Um. Mass degeneration is not "fun". That's called "pressure". If you really think pressure is fun, try closing your head in a car door. Besides, Bleeding (3)+ Posion (4) + the conditional degen from Seeping already is -13 or -15, depending on your attribute level. It doesn't need to be -50. Wastrel's Collapse: This skill could have a 1 second recharge, and it would still be worthless. Any Warrior KD build, Shock, Gale... anything that causes KD when you want it is instantly better. Clamor of Souls: Yeah, sweet let's make this change, then we can run Rt/A teams in halls with tele skills and an AoE spike that works like Obsidian Flame. I can't wait, seriously.... or maybe we could never have an AoE armor ignoring spike skill again (cough cough Spiritual Pain cough cough Feast of Corruption cough cough Oppressive Gaze cough cough). Signet of Ghostly Might: Even with your change, there's no purpose for this skill when you could use your elite on something better... like Preservation, which recharges in as much time as you'd like the sig to.... and you want this to be used on defensive spirits when it's singular purpose is to buff their damage? Derrrr. Preservation: Actually, free Heal Other every 4 seconds forever is good enough without it being able to help catch a balanced spike. It's pressure help, not a free Monk. Tranquil Was Tanasen: A survival skill? Um, that skill stops interruption, primarily. Your suggested buff wouldn't really affect the skill's playability either way. Attuned Was Songkai: Why not? Because have it up all the time forever is like never coming down off a cocaine binge... you'll be going strong while everyone else is crashing, and you won't understand what's going wrong. It's powerful enough as it is, and it's not hard to work around the small downtime. It's what we call "balanced". That's why not. Defensive Anthem: Yes your knowledge of the metagame shines with your comment here that this skill is significantly worse than Aegis in PvP. In reality, it's significantly better, since it's completely impossible for your opponents to remove. Your buff would make it impossible to not run... oh I'm sorry, did you miss that Paragons are still overpowered despite being continually nerfed since their release? Focused Anger: Ok, I have to quote it because you saying it made me lol a lot: "How many Adrenaline skills do Paragons have, anyways?" The answer is 20, and a lot of them are extremely powerful... and that's ignoring the fact that many Warrior adrenaline skills can be run on a P/W and used effectively. Did you miss the fact that Paragons are the only class in the game besides Warriors that even have adren skills? Come on now. "The Power Is Yours!": Um, even with your buff this skill is horribly lame. 7 energy every 20 seconds... how about instead you run a P/N with Blood is Power. Oh, that's already meta, and wouldn't change with this buff? Obs moar plz. Wounding Strike: "The whole enchant/without enchant mechanic is too confusing." Aw, I'm sorry that it confuses you. Unfortunately, it's what the Dervish class is largely based on, so it's not just going to disappear because it's so0o0o0o0o complicated to understand. How about we just... don't make this skill a double condition applicator that hits every 3 seconds? Yes, that took me forever to type out. Yes, it was worth it. |
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.
Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ]
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I like the Peace and Harmony idea.
Some of the Warrior elites like Cleave and Quivering Blade are powerful in their own right. Cleave is high DPS where it's cousin, Eviscerate, is for spiking. Making it AoE doesn't make much sense. Did I mention I want the Peace and Harmony buff? Last edited by makosi; May 23, 2007 at 01:40 PM // 13:40.. |
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May 23, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Denmark
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Alright folks, lets try to keep critique constructive here. Lets avoid flames.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]
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Possible solutions: Its meant to be the elite version of Gale, Zingers suggested change wouldnt make it more usable since there are no non elite Air hexes. It needs a total rework, For example Give it an unconditional knockdown, reduce the damage to 10....34 damage, increase to 3 seconds knockdown and add in exhaustion, (so it becomes a slightly longer kd Gale with damage) Quote:
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Possible solutions: Reduce the gain to 1...5 and Reduce the degen to -5 energy (so u have -2) and make it effect all other party members Last edited by Sophitia Leafblade; May 23, 2007 at 03:00 PM // 15:00.. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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May 23, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Regems Basement
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The Discord idea was worst imo.
Same with Decapitate, Decapitate does A LOT of damage if used correctly. Cleave spike ftw. those were the good ol days. Still not a bad skill imo ,doesnt need buff or nerf. Other than that, zinger, thanks for taking the time and opening up A LOT of options to EVERYONE. It shows elite skills that need to be buffed or nerfed. GJ |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)
Guild: Pylons of Bastet [PofB]
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Wark!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
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You know, a number of people in this thread don't seem to know how quivering blade works. You are the one getting dazed, not the other guy. All Zinger wanted was it to add bleeding damage to the enemy and not to you or dazed to the enemy. Anyways, I'm going to disagree with the added bleeding damage for Quivering Blade just because I think there are better ways to improve it.
And in general, I'm going to say that these suggestions in general tend to over buff skills. |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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quivering gives you (the warrior) the daze effect once blocked. daze is super broken against casters, and thus, by transfering the condition by means of the skill Plague Touch, not only CAN you deal damage/pressure, but when blocked, you can DAZE and get a sort of "win win" effect. you never ever play Quivering anything without Plague, and on top of that, being able to add bleeding as well.. well.. thats terribly over powered. [skill]quivering blade[/skill] vs [skill]guardian[/skill] +[skill]plague touch[/skill] = caster pain |
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